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	<title>Comments on: What story?</title>
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	<description>"A new low for the British Empire."</description>
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		<title>By: phillbarron</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>phillbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've recently decided to avoid people I think are idiots, it seems easier.

Although I haven't been able to look at my reflection since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently decided to avoid people I think are idiots, it seems easier.</p>
<p>Although I haven&#8217;t been able to look at my reflection since.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny-K</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny-K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" . . . The truth is four or five drafts down the line, they still don't know what they want and they're still changing their minds . . ."

Not surprised, - there's an old management line that's stood the test of time and goes: If you can't measure it; you can't manage it."

And that's exactly what they're setting you to do. By being vague in their measurements, they've made it impossible for you to manage the project.

As their success comes primarily from the management of others, they don't sound like they've been trained to ever get it right. It's going to come down to luck, as they've positioned themselves to reply: That's not what we asked for.

David Brent Enterprises I bet they call themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; . . . The truth is four or five drafts down the line, they still don&#8217;t know what they want and they&#8217;re still changing their minds . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Not surprised, - there&#8217;s an old management line that&#8217;s stood the test of time and goes: If you can&#8217;t measure it; you can&#8217;t manage it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s exactly what they&#8217;re setting you to do. By being vague in their measurements, they&#8217;ve made it impossible for you to manage the project.</p>
<p>As their success comes primarily from the management of others, they don&#8217;t sound like they&#8217;ve been trained to ever get it right. It&#8217;s going to come down to luck, as they&#8217;ve positioned themselves to reply: That&#8217;s not what we asked for.</p>
<p>David Brent Enterprises I bet they call themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: d f mamea</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>d f mamea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you're absolutely right:  getting paid might be nice but life is too short to write for such creatures.

for me, the fourth question would be:  how much can i charge?  i find that when i push for more than is offered, the onus is thrown back on the producer - by asking for (demanding) more, they'll think twice about micromanaging drafts; and i'm not (necessarily) being greedy, i'm pricing myself as a quality provider (because i am, dammit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re absolutely right:  getting paid might be nice but life is too short to write for such creatures.</p>
<p>for me, the fourth question would be:  how much can i charge?  i find that when i push for more than is offered, the onus is thrown back on the producer - by asking for (demanding) more, they&#8217;ll think twice about micromanaging drafts; and i&#8217;m not (necessarily) being greedy, i&#8217;m pricing myself as a quality provider (because i am, dammit).</p>
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		<title>By: phillbarron</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1786</link>
		<dc:creator>phillbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 12:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a part of my brain which focuses on the money; but there's a larger part which refers me back to reality: it's not worth it.

As Christine says, if they don't know what they want, you can do anything and they'll be happy - if only.

The truth is four or five drafts down the line, they still don't know what they want and they're still changing their minds.

Here in the shallow end, the money's not worth the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a part of my brain which focuses on the money; but there&#8217;s a larger part which refers me back to reality: it&#8217;s not worth it.</p>
<p>As Christine says, if they don&#8217;t know what they want, you can do anything and they&#8217;ll be happy - if only.</p>
<p>The truth is four or five drafts down the line, they still don&#8217;t know what they want and they&#8217;re still changing their minds.</p>
<p>Here in the shallow end, the money&#8217;s not worth the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: d f mamea</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1784</link>
		<dc:creator>d f mamea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but you're being *paid* to write their shit.

'paid' is a rare and sweet four-letter word.

and don't forget:  "Every time He closes one door, He opens another."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you&#8217;re being *paid* to write their shit.</p>
<p>&#8216;paid&#8217; is a rare and sweet four-letter word.</p>
<p>and don&#8217;t forget:  &#8220;Every time He closes one door, He opens another.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Patton</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/what-story/#comment-1780</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you could look at it as an opportunity to write whatever you want.  If you include one or two of the producer/director's best ideas, then explain that you've given them what they asked for, they just don't get it because they're not a writer, it's a win.

Assuming, of course, that said producer/director is open to persuasion.  If they're not, you're up the proverbial creek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you could look at it as an opportunity to write whatever you want.  If you include one or two of the producer/director&#8217;s best ideas, then explain that you&#8217;ve given them what they asked for, they just don&#8217;t get it because they&#8217;re not a writer, it&#8217;s a win.</p>
<p>Assuming, of course, that said producer/director is open to persuasion.  If they&#8217;re not, you&#8217;re up the proverbial creek.</p>
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