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		<title>By: English Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>English Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.</description>
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		<title>By: phillbarron</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1951</link>
		<dc:creator>phillbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will always avoid passive tense because it makes for a fucking dull read. Camera angles just aren't my job and annoy the piss out of me - I don't see that they're necessary, unless the director specifies one. We see - fucking redundant. Wrylies, I use a few - everyone I work with tells me to put more in.

All in all, I'll stick as close to 'the rules' as I can without being anal about it - purely because you never know and it doesn't hurt. I'm aware that most pro writers don't, but I wonder if they got to where they are before readers and graduates got obsessed by these rules. Would they get to the same level today or would some over-zealous reader block them?

Don't know, probably isn't worth taking the risk. It's the old 'write in black ink only' instruction - most reasonable people wouldn't dismiss an application form for using blue ink, but the odd moron would and since it's just as easy to use black as to use blue, why not cover your arse?

As for the 'he remembers' instruction - I see nothing wrong with that and I would use it. Anyone who would describe that as an unfilmable is a twat. If it said 'he remebers the little blue dog he had when he was six and smiles wistfully about the time he and the girl next door used to ...' then I'd agree, that'sa lot for one actor to convey.

One final word: I'm not a genius scriptwriter - I'm fairly mediocre (don't tell anyone) but producing presentable work helps fool people who don't know what they're looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will always avoid passive tense because it makes for a fucking dull read. Camera angles just aren&#8217;t my job and annoy the piss out of me - I don&#8217;t see that they&#8217;re necessary, unless the director specifies one. We see - fucking redundant. Wrylies, I use a few - everyone I work with tells me to put more in.</p>
<p>All in all, I&#8217;ll stick as close to &#8216;the rules&#8217; as I can without being anal about it - purely because you never know and it doesn&#8217;t hurt. I&#8217;m aware that most pro writers don&#8217;t, but I wonder if they got to where they are before readers and graduates got obsessed by these rules. Would they get to the same level today or would some over-zealous reader block them?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know, probably isn&#8217;t worth taking the risk. It&#8217;s the old &#8216;write in black ink only&#8217; instruction - most reasonable people wouldn&#8217;t dismiss an application form for using blue ink, but the odd moron would and since it&#8217;s just as easy to use black as to use blue, why not cover your arse?</p>
<p>As for the &#8216;he remembers&#8217; instruction - I see nothing wrong with that and I would use it. Anyone who would describe that as an unfilmable is a twat. If it said &#8216;he remebers the little blue dog he had when he was six and smiles wistfully about the time he and the girl next door used to &#8230;&#8217; then I&#8217;d agree, that&#8217;sa lot for one actor to convey.</p>
<p>One final word: I&#8217;m not a genius scriptwriter - I&#8217;m fairly mediocre (don&#8217;t tell anyone) but producing presentable work helps fool people who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: English Dave</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1944</link>
		<dc:creator>English Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>''Passive tense, camera angles, we sees, wrylies - they just don’t care;''

Phill I would seriously suggest that you care less also.  Most of these  so called 'rules' are completely ignored by most pro writers. Pick up any pro script to see that.  They are the fodder spewed forth by teachers and gurus who mostly haven't written  anything worth a damn . The name of the game is getting the story across in the best possible way.   

As an experiment I just picked up the Script for Basic Instinct 2. Not a great sctipt I admit, but that's more to do with story.  

I randomly opened on page 84. Here is an action line 

''Andrew wakes. His legs entangled with hers. A momentary panic where he is. Then he remembers'' 

Guru logic and rules would say ''you can't write that.  You can only write what you see. How can you shoot someone remembering? '' 

It's called acting.

Wrylies - pro scripts can be loaded with them. Yet another ''rule urban myth'' Camera angles - if it helps get the story across then go for it.  Moderation is the key.

It's all about 'selling'  the story.  I'd be really worried if a producer did pick up on the use of wrylies or camera angles or a host of so called rules.  I'd reckon they didn't know what they were talking about and  were  ''technoratti' guru schooled  fakers rather than true creative execs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Passive tense, camera angles, we sees, wrylies - they just don’t care;&#8221;</p>
<p>Phill I would seriously suggest that you care less also.  Most of these  so called &#8216;rules&#8217; are completely ignored by most pro writers. Pick up any pro script to see that.  They are the fodder spewed forth by teachers and gurus who mostly haven&#8217;t written  anything worth a damn . The name of the game is getting the story across in the best possible way.   </p>
<p>As an experiment I just picked up the Script for Basic Instinct 2. Not a great sctipt I admit, but that&#8217;s more to do with story.  </p>
<p>I randomly opened on page 84. Here is an action line </p>
<p>&#8221;Andrew wakes. His legs entangled with hers. A momentary panic where he is. Then he remembers&#8221; </p>
<p>Guru logic and rules would say &#8221;you can&#8217;t write that.  You can only write what you see. How can you shoot someone remembering? &#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s called acting.</p>
<p>Wrylies - pro scripts can be loaded with them. Yet another &#8221;rule urban myth&#8221; Camera angles - if it helps get the story across then go for it.  Moderation is the key.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about &#8217;selling&#8217;  the story.  I&#8217;d be really worried if a producer did pick up on the use of wrylies or camera angles or a host of so called rules.  I&#8217;d reckon they didn&#8217;t know what they were talking about and  were  &#8221;technoratti&#8217; guru schooled  fakers rather than true creative execs.</p>
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		<title>By: phillbarron</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>phillbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think importing paper's a bit excessive, unless you're submitting to the States - then maybe it's just a nicety.

I do think sticking to acceptable format is a good thing, I just think it's funny I keep working with people who don't know or care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think importing paper&#8217;s a bit excessive, unless you&#8217;re submitting to the States - then maybe it&#8217;s just a nicety.</p>
<p>I do think sticking to acceptable format is a good thing, I just think it&#8217;s funny I keep working with people who don&#8217;t know or care.</p>
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		<title>By: d f mamea</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>d f mamea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i keep telling newbies:  if it *looks* like a script (Courier 12pt, 2.54cm margins, etc) and follows the basic formatting rules consistently, then worry about the freaking *story*, man.

there are people here (in New Zealand) who airfreight in Letter-size paper and brass brads just so their scripts look Amerikan.  it confounds me that people expend their time and energy on such things.  (then my evil competitive side points out that whatever energy they're using on such fripperies *they're not using on their WRITING*.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i keep telling newbies:  if it *looks* like a script (Courier 12pt, 2.54cm margins, etc) and follows the basic formatting rules consistently, then worry about the freaking *story*, man.</p>
<p>there are people here (in New Zealand) who airfreight in Letter-size paper and brass brads just so their scripts look Amerikan.  it confounds me that people expend their time and energy on such things.  (then my evil competitive side points out that whatever energy they&#8217;re using on such fripperies *they&#8217;re not using on their WRITING*.)</p>
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		<title>By: phillbarron</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1900</link>
		<dc:creator>phillbarron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you; but at the same time, it's not worth getting wound up about. I just received a pile of example scripts from this BBC show I'm submitting to - not two of them are formatted the same - different fonts, different layouts, some bits are bold, some italic - they just don't care.

I spent ages (okay, not ages - a bit) setting up Final Draft to match the format of the initial scripts I saw - and it was all a waste of time.

Again, that's not to say I won't stick to the format I think is right, but it's worth mentioning that everyone does things slightly differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you; but at the same time, it&#8217;s not worth getting wound up about. I just received a pile of example scripts from this BBC show I&#8217;m submitting to - not two of them are formatted the same - different fonts, different layouts, some bits are bold, some italic - they just don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>I spent ages (okay, not ages - a bit) setting up Final Draft to match the format of the initial scripts I saw - and it was all a waste of time.</p>
<p>Again, that&#8217;s not to say I won&#8217;t stick to the format I think is right, but it&#8217;s worth mentioning that everyone does things slightly differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
		<link>http://phillbarron.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/the-rules/#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As most of us will have have to go past a reader at some point, be it for an agency, competition or prodco, is it worth risking it? I don't think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As most of us will have have to go past a reader at some point, be it for an agency, competition or prodco, is it worth risking it? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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